Interesting article about teamplay

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory discussion section
Veteran
User avatar
Posts: 1066
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2006 0:00
Location: The Netherlands

Interesting article about teamplay

Postby Viduus » Thu Oct 09, 2008 21:42

Hi,

I found an article about teamplay and how you should play ET. It's a bit of a long read but it is worth it.

http://games.or8.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1363&p=1

I am curious to know your opinions about it.

Cheers,
Viduus

Veteran
Posts: 89
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 0:00
Location: Poland

Postby Cinek » Thu Oct 09, 2008 22:25

All what they are writing there is 100% true and it's not something new for team players. 8)

I think the most important is to stop thinkin about yourself and start thinking about TEAM. Like they wrote: if u escort guy with obj, don't hasitate to take enemy fire on u if situation needs this. This can give him time to secure the obj.

One more important thing is to have 1 leader who tell u what to do and u ALWAYS listen him and support him (rly often it's eng, cos of his importance for obj).

For all that players they never try teamworking I advise u to try. It rly gives u a tons of fun and btw new good friends (like me and varoth and viduus, we become friends cos of joint actions). :wink:
Image

Veteran
User avatar
Posts: 2713
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:00
Location: Finland

Postby Plastic_Jesus » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:51

That will be nice but 1 prob do everybody read this :< I like to defend and attack in some maps and sometimes little bit frag. But those guys are right in that what did they wrote :)

sry english :<
S.S.Atrocity wrote:Im pretty sure Saukko will have pages worth of bugs found before anyone knows about the release...lol

Veteran
User avatar
Posts: 2241
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:00

Postby Ajit » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:05

very good :> i rly enjoyed that reading

Spam Lord
User avatar
Posts: 401
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 0:00
Location: Netherlands XFire: rickdumo

Postby RiCkY » Fri Oct 10, 2008 20:10

it was a learnsome post from him and Averything he says was..well TRUE!
I just feel better at ET just reading it :D
thanks for Finding it Viduus :D

Thx

Greetz RiCkY
A good conversation is like a skirt,
short enough to keep your interest,
yet long enough to cover the subject.
- Zelos Wilder, Tales of Symphonia

Spam God
User avatar
Posts: 673
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 0:00
Location: Italy

Postby -Gighen- » Fri Oct 10, 2008 20:37

it is all true.. but ET players play for the personal result, not for the objective.. i will want to play as the article says, but i want to do the best result.. i don't want to go in negative ( for example 18/25 ) because i must to escort the obj :oops: :oops: .. i want to do the most positive result.. and i don't to do it if i think only to escort the objective and to win the map :oops: :oops: .. sry for that... in any case the article is 100% true... tnx viduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus for finding it :P
and sry for my bad english :P :oops:
-Gighen-

Official Member
User avatar
Posts: 2598
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:00
Location: Estonia

Postby deep » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:25

that is not possible on pub servers (exept pro), because the priority on pub is stats, and in pro, scrims, wars etc. is to win the map. so the system is quite different imo.

Spam God
User avatar
Posts: 730
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 0:00

Postby Ajdija » Sat Oct 11, 2008 18:53

it's how to be fomok XD
Image

Spam Pro
User avatar
Posts: 228
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:00
Location: no thanks!

Postby Edhell » Sat Oct 11, 2008 19:40

Main goal of playing on pub servers is to have fun... Not to stress urself to do obj, or force ur team-mates to follow template of game play. This article is totally useless here, and doesn't shows nothing new, everything there is well known true :roll: As author writes their server is "teamwork server" (however is it supposed to work.. can't be done on public servers...) PS are mainly fun servers ! ppl are enjoying their play here .. This article is just a spam bomb imo :?
Image

Official Member
User avatar
Posts: 2598
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:00
Location: Estonia

Postby deep » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:11

ye this article is more fit to readers who have just started participating in a clan.

Veteran
Posts: 767
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 0:00

Postby Spyhawk » Sun Oct 12, 2008 20:53

Edhell > You forgot one little thing : playing as a team on public server is hard, but it's really really fun to do!

You can still find 2 or 3 teammate to help you to do obj, no matter if the rest of your team are stupid little children trying to have most kill (yeah, you can have the best aim of server, the most kill number of server, and be the most stupid player because you lost map :P).

Playing Obj is not a pain : You don't play for obj, you play to win the game.

A little comic to illustrate obj playing on public server :P : http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/019.jpg

Btw, never forget that : real heero are engi, not rambo medic.

Official Member
User avatar
Posts: 2598
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:00
Location: Estonia

Postby deep » Sun Oct 12, 2008 21:43

Spyhawk wrote:You don't play for obj, you play to win the game.

so.. u play for objective..!

btw playing maps over and over again for years just for winning a map is kind a boring. players play cuz they wanna improve in something (ex. aim). and me for an example, dont feel like a hero when i do objective because it doesnt give any rush. This goes to pub servers, but for pro servers its contrariwise.

Spam Pro
User avatar
Posts: 228
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:00
Location: no thanks!

Postby Edhell » Sun Oct 12, 2008 21:45

Spyhawk wrote:Edhell > You forgot one little thing : playing as a team on public server is hard, but it's really really fun to do!

Playing Obj is not a pain : You don't play for obj, you play to win the game.

A little comic to illustrate obj playing on public server :P : http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/019.jpg

Btw, never forget that : real heero are engi, not rambo medic.


This comic in deed illustrate quintessence of team-play article :roll:

I didn't forgot that team play is fun, further more I prefer playing as engi .. not on public servers, but.. this article is not about me. It's about regular players of public servers...

Spyhawk wrote:You can still find 2 or 3 teammate to help you to do obj, no matter if the rest of your team are stupid little children trying to have most kill (yeah, you can have the best aim of server, the most kill number of server, and be the most stupid player because you lost map :P).


...tell me how is it possible that always there is engi in team who have his escort to obj? For sure its possible only thanks to this wonderful article! And yeah, most of ppl who escort engis are doing it coz they want to have "the best aim of server, the most kill number of server".... are they? They are doing it ,as you said b4, .. for FUN.

Read again my previous post it's almost the same as this one :roll:
Main goal in pub servers is to having fun, everyone likes other things in ET as every ppl are different. And whole this "team play" article is a bullsh.. for me coz even, "camper with mg42" have his part in obj progress. You can't just give a whole glory to the engi :oops:

Every one is helping in doing obj in the way he likes the most... in the way which he finds the most pleasure-full so
Spyhawk wrote:(yeah, you can have the best aim of server, the most kill number of server, and be the most stupid player because you lost map :P)
this sentence is illogical to me :cry:

Again: you can't force players to play as someone told them to do, coz there is no fun there...
Image

Veteran
Posts: 767
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 0:00

Postby Spyhawk » Mon Oct 13, 2008 18:36

Hehe :)

First, sorry to all if I struck souls with my "stupid" expression, this was really not the intention :oops:

You can't just give a whole glory to the engi


I never said that everyone must play engi "Engi are real heero, not rambo medic" means "people capable of coordinated actions are good/skilled/heero".

And yes, if you are the "best" player on server and lost the map, you're definitively not the best on server (you lose, so you was unable to do thing to.. win). Most people on public server seems to forget this point (But for sure you can have the most kill and help your team to win, or have fun doing other thing than obj).

Oh, and have some imagination for the comic ;)

Server High Admin
User avatar
Posts: 899
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:00
Location: Modena (IT)

Postby Oxyg3n » Mon Oct 13, 2008 18:50

:good: :good: :good:
Image
Image

Official Member
User avatar
Posts: 2598
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:00
Location: Estonia

Postby deep » Mon Oct 13, 2008 20:33

Spyhawk wrote:I never said that everyone must play engi "Engi are real heero, not rambo medic" means "people capable of coordinated actions are good/skilled/heero".

nope, cuz there r different type's of skill.
Spyhawk wrote:And yes, if you are the "best" player on server and lost the map, you're definitively not the best on server (you lose, so you was unable to do thing to.. win). Most people on public server seems to forget this point

the main coal isnt winning the map to everyone.

read edhell's post again: Main goal in pub servers is having fun, so it means that rambo medics have fun having spree, most kills etc. they dont care about obj. but their having fun. its one of the prime goals of ps to offer fun server, not just teamplay or just fragging. hope u got edhell's first post now, lolz.

Spam King
User avatar
Posts: 600
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 0:00
Location: Inside my mind.

:o

Postby -Neji- » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:53

Guys i know its a offtopic :x Did u seen anytime when I playin with -Drag- in same team? That was fckin amazing Teamwork everytime ;)

-Drag- Did i sayin bull$hit? Nope :D :P

Russian Team Work FTW :) Just only what i can say im not rambo medic and Drag can say it to ya I doesnt leave him when he just want to be revived :D still doesnt care about my HP only about my team mate :P

So :D 108th -Neji- Prefers all the time Teamwork ;) Coz Russian Teamwork Is the Best :P :D

Greetz Neji ;x
P.s Drag why u doesnt play ET? Oo with me ? :P
Image


I can't let you scream

Server High Admin
User avatar
Posts: 2922
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 0:00
Location: Finland

Postby GoldenBullet » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:52

Yes good article.
But I still rather frag than yell at my teammates sometimes.
I mean teamwork on 20vs20 is impossible!

Official Member
User avatar
Posts: 1572
Joined: Sat Jun 10, 2006 0:00
Location: The Netherlands

Postby Evil » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:11

:good: :good: article. had alot of fun with reading it.

But sadly some people wont understand these words :)

Spam Pro
User avatar
Posts: 228
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:00
Location: no thanks!

Re: :o

Postby Edhell » Tue Oct 14, 2008 13:27

-Neji- wrote:Guys i know its a offtopic :x Did u seen anytime when I playin with -Drag- in same team? That was fckin amazing Teamwork everytime ;)

-Drag- Did i sayin bull$hit? Nope :D :P

Russian Team Work FTW :) Just only what i can say im not rambo medic and Drag can say it to ya I doesnt leave him when he just want to be revived :D still doesnt care about my HP only about my team mate :P

So :D 108th -Neji- Prefers all the time Teamwork ;) Coz Russian Teamwork Is the Best :P :D

Greetz Neji ;x
P.s Drag why u doesnt play ET? Oo with me ? :P


Wow, you are so amazing. Full respect! :roll:
Image

Official Member
User avatar
Posts: 1011
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:00
Location: PS 5 and Estonia :D

Re: :o

Postby -Drag- » Tue Oct 14, 2008 13:50

-Neji- wrote:
Greetz Neji ;x
P.s Drag why u doesnt play ET? Oo with me ? :P

Im just little off from et atm, Time is my prob
Image
Image

Spam King
User avatar
Posts: 576
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 0:00
Location: elgium, Antwerp !? Xfire: Luxofluxowns

Postby LuXoFluXe » Tue Oct 14, 2008 20:13

Jha,, vrry intresting !
:beer: !
Image
Image
lick dem´ pussies.

Spam God
User avatar
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2007 0:00
Location: The Netherlands

Postby nick » Tue Oct 14, 2008 20:54

Diamond wrote:
Spyhawk wrote:I never said that everyone must play engi "Engi are real heero, not rambo medic" means "people capable of coordinated actions are good/skilled/heero".

nope, cuz there r different type's of skill.
Spyhawk wrote:And yes, if you are the "best" player on server and lost the map, you're definitively not the best on server (you lose, so you was unable to do thing to.. win). Most people on public server seems to forget this point

the main coal isnt winning the map to everyone.

read edhell's post again: Main goal in pub servers is having fun, so it means that rambo medics have fun having spree, most kills etc. they dont care about obj. but their having fun. its one of the prime goals of ps to offer fun server, not just teamplay or just fragging. hope u got edhell's first post now, lolz.


but i think that once someone has 'seen the light' and has won a game in whitch they got pwnd very hard, and you won just because 2/3 players do a good teamjob, thats amazing, although i cant say it happens much to me :oops:

Veteran
User avatar
Posts: 2241
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:00

Re: :o

Postby Ajit » Tue Oct 14, 2008 20:54

-Drag- wrote:Time is my prob



same here :<

Return to Enemy Territory Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests