Marrakech Streets: allowed to go on rooftops or not?>

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Rooftops?

Yes
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No
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Marrakech Streets: allowed to go on rooftops or not?>

Postby SteelProphet » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:32

Apparently the NEW rule (since I played it again just now) is that's not allowed. What happened and why was it for the last couple months? Are there any reasons why you shouldnt be allowed to be on the map, its fairly easy to reach and it makes a good spot for sniping. You can reach it with arty too so its not really a maphack either.

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Postby Ferocious » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:55

I hate people on roofs ill go up there is i have to like to get someone. but i wouldnt camp up there, i did in the past but im not as much as a nub now. 8)
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Postby lis » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:02

simply camping on normal parts of the roof area should be no problem imo. but in some places right on the top you see through the floors/walls, and if i remember right you can shoot out, but nobody can shoot in or something like that. cant remember, i never really go up there. anyway, this type of bug use is what the rulebook refers to.

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Postby mem » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:03

camping the roofs on marrakesh streets gives a big advantage : this act like a wallhack, so it's forbidden and ISN'T a new rule :

-|PS|- Rulebook wrote:Don’t use map bugs, exploits or secret rooms.


this sentence isn't enough clear ??

the only thing which authorized you up to now to use this bug was the difference in appreciation of the rules that there's between each admin. personaly i agree with Neme and Alloomma : camping the roofs IN THIS WAY is forbidden and i warn every time i see someone using this bug, including admins.

make this poll going in your point of view if you want, nvm, i'll warn (then !slap or !burn or !throw or !whatever) every dude using this bug anyway.

Edit : oops, writing at same time lady :P

ladylisa wrote:but in some places right on the top you see through the floors/walls, and if i remember right you can shoot out, but nobody can shoot in or something like that.


yup, there's a part of the map near the first axis spawn from where you can shot without being hit or see, this is crap :evil:
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Postby Maarten » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:38

Yeah like everyone says

youre not alowed to do so because of the rules but in some places you can
what do i have to vote now??? yes or no??
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Postby GoldenBullet » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:23

starts to irritate that some axis camps there throwing supports and arty to the cabinets + nades.

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Postby warren-the-ape » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:06

Problem is that players are now punished for poor map design, cause thats what it is, poor map design, you can hardly call it a bug. The watertower in railgun is a bug, Marrakech would than be 1 BIG BUG.

Remove the map or lower (turnoff) doublejump for that map.

Dont know about you guys but if i have to warn every player that goes up there while playing that map I rather hit the !nexmap command :roll:


edit: Or let someone fix the map, add an invisible ceiling or something, perhaps Zombie is able to do that?
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Postby Generator » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:07

It gets annoying when people constantly go up there, especially when they are fdops and just constant arty or smth. Sniper gets annoying too :P Every server i have ever played on its been banned so i think it should stay that way here too >.<

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Postby Afterlife » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:22

No, its lame and gives a big advantage to the players sitting up there, they can run to the other side of the map without being even seen nor hit, while they can see you easily and kill u...

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Postby Zielobjekt » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:54

warren-the-ape wrote:edit: Or let someone fix the map, add an invisible ceiling or something, perhaps Zombie is able to do that?


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Postby Pancake » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:02

Camping Camping lalala :p

bad map bug


no, best idea from warren, at ps3 we had fueldump and 'wall' near the dump for no tj, like so one, or make map little :p

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Postby BOWDOWN » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:24

I also voted NO, this vote is useless, some will be for others against, and even if the YES win it don t allow u to use it, why? just take a look again on our rulebook if there is a need :wink: . U can find it a noob rule, but each server and community have his own rules and if u find it in rulebook it mean that we believ on it, so noway to change rules each time somebody complain about some rules, personaly if i m not agree with some i will just change server.

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Postby SteelProphet » Wed Jul 18, 2007 15:43

You dont have to guess for my reasons why I do this. I just posted this to get a discussion going :o

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Postby blazing » Wed Jul 18, 2007 16:12

i say no
because it's bug and it's lame
so or fix it or delete the map out of rotation;)

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Postby Sleyvas » Wed Jul 18, 2007 17:15

I vote no :)


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Postby NightMare » Wed Jul 18, 2007 17:30

huh this is kinad strange cause when i first started to play at ps2 i asked some admins if its allowed to go on the roof in that map and they say it couldnt do any harm and that it was ok to go there.. (( i dont know names )) cause in other server it wasnt allowed to go up so i ask and it was ok and now i hear that it not ok??..

but i dont rly care about the roof is people want to camp there then they just being lame.. so i cant vote..
but i see most people voted no so then i just stick with that and just helping make the server a bit better ;) :)



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Postby hero2zer0 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 23:03

Just remove the map from rotation and possibly replace it with another, bug-less, map? It could also take away some of the boredom of constantly playing the same maps over and over again :roll:
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Postby BOWDOWN » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:42

NightMare wrote:huh this is kinad strange cause when i first started to play at ps2 i asked some admins if its allowed to go on the roof in that map and they say it couldnt do any harm and that it was ok to go there.. (( i dont know names )) cause in other server it wasnt allowed to go up so i ask and it was ok and now i hear that it not ok??


It s becuz this kind of situation that it s better to make it forbidden in all servers, having different rules can be confusing for players and admins so, let s avoid problems and have a standard rule about it.

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Postby hero2zer0 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 14:37

Not going to mention any names, but I've seen more than one Prime Squad member up there :?
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Postby lis » Thu Jul 19, 2007 15:03

hero2zer0 wrote:Not going to mention any names, but I've seen more than one Prime Squad member up there :?


what's your point exactly?

as you can see there has been confusion about it, and this is why we're discussing it here so that we can formulate a general rule. your remark doesn't add anything to the discussion :?

as bow said:

Bowdown wrote:It s becuz this kind of situation that it s better to make it forbidden in all servers, having different rules can be confusing for players and admins so, let s avoid problems and have a standard rule about it.

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Postby Draggiejj » Thu Jul 19, 2007 15:06

True, But marrakech is a big part of roofs, Not mentioning the bugged roofs but the house in the middle, Where alot of axis/allies come on to kill eachother, Isn't it better if we can't find an good rule that we just delete the map, Else people will still go on there when there aren't any admins online 0.o
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Postby hero2zer0 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 16:41

What I'm trying to say is you guys should not tell people not to go there when the rule obviously doesn't apply to admins...this needs to be dealt with ASAP.
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Postby Mefisto » Thu Jul 19, 2007 17:42

I like this map but if its make so many problems delete it and load sth other (ASAP). In my opinion people shouldnt go to the roof. Team which control the roof dont give any chance second team and on the roof u can see others in building ::: thats not fer. :!: :!: :!:



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Postby lis » Thu Jul 19, 2007 17:43

hero2zer0 wrote:What I'm trying to say is you guys should not tell people not to go there when the rule obviously doesn't apply to admins...this needs to be dealt with ASAP.


so in your opinion, we should just let everyone go there, simply because you have seen some admins (members more likely) go up there in the past? well in that case let's close the topic and all shut up about it?

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but, thanks for your input anyway ;)

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Postby hero2zer0 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 22:36

In the past is less than 24 hours, and the so called 'member' has been using the binoculars to direct artillery from a "buggy" roof position. Not that it bothers me too much unlike most of the 14 year old 'members' who cannot admit to defeat and have to resort to such actions :wink:
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