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Postby mad_tda » Sat Sep 06, 2014 14:39

Hallo,

your rulebook says:
Cheats, hacks and scripts such as; aimbots, wallhacks, multihacks, namehacks, guidspoofers, anti-recoil scripts, etc. are NOT allowed at our servers, using them will result in a permanent ban!

if i invert your enumeration, so script which automate common doings are allowed. Following script imho should also be a threaded as cheat:
* change weapon script (change weapon instead of reload)
* 180° turn script
* movement scripts
* waiting to throw grenade
* re-spawn time checker

Last months i see more and more players who:
* was unhitable
* drop grenades perfectly
* change weapons at perfect time

Today i followed ckey where i have to see how much trouble he had to run straight forward (everything has a drawback :P )

I have not very much problems with these scripts, i play vs bots too ;)

Discuss it, i think playing without scripts (et scripts and programmable keyboard scripts) will make more fun.

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Re: Cheating

Postby Troyan » Sat Sep 06, 2014 15:13

Hello mate :beer:

My opinion is that thouse are not cheats. Thats just game setings and every1 is alowed to have setings as he want to.

Is playing without scripts give more fun? imo every1 have his own opinion. For some1 its more fun for other isnt. Iv got thouse scripts but im not useing it coz... dunno... just screw it :) But force ppl to not use some ET setings is imo not right.

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Re: Cheating

Postby ckEy » Sat Sep 06, 2014 16:34

Hei,

as I am mentioned in the post I thought I should address that, so here we go... (just for simplicity I have marked things that have no sense to ban as green).

1st would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:* change weapon script (change weapon instead of reload)

I believe NQ has this feature as well. Not applicable.

2nd would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:* 180° turn script

More often you get way more confused if you use that imo as the enemy isn't always 180 deg behind you, but oh well.

3rd would-be offense: (color means ambiguous, dont know if you reffer to my me not running in a straght line ...)
mad_tda wrote:* movement scripts

I don't see why would anyone use that and sure, I agree with you there. But don't mistaken not running in straight line all the time for a moment script xd.

4th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:* waiting to throw grenade

You can just time it correctly even without script. I don't see how you'd check that. Banning players who gets kills with nades because they "cheat" - a little bit over the top lol. Plus they don't. You get approx 4s to prime your nade so that it lands and explodes, easy to keep track of that.

5th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:* re-spawn time checker

I don't see why we shouldn't allow it, plus hardly anyone uses that on NQ.

6th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:Last months i see more and more players who:
* was unhitable

Lag/good movement? :)

7th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:* drop grenades perfectly

No problem with that.

8th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:* change weapons at perfect time

Could have been nq feature they are just aware of how much ammo they use.

9th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:Today i followed ckey where i have to see how much trouble he had to run straight forward (everything has a drawback :P )

because running forward is slower? xd

10th would-be offense:
mad_tda wrote:I have not very much problems with these scripts, i play vs bots too ;)

Good. I don't :P. But I agree we should outlaw bots :P.

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Re: Cheating

Postby Smadje » Sat Sep 06, 2014 17:09

Good post to clear some things up. Except for antirecoilscripts and 180 scripts we allow the rest ;). After this weekend i will post the allowed scripts and settings so everyone knows how to use them to their advantage.
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Re: Cheating

Postby CALLEJON » Tue Sep 09, 2014 18:24

mad_tda wrote:Hallo,

your rulebook says:
Cheats, hacks and scripts such as; aimbots, wallhacks, multihacks, namehacks, guidspoofers, anti-recoil scripts, etc. are NOT allowed at our servers, using them will result in a permanent ban!

if i invert your enumeration, so script which automate common doings are allowed. Following script imho should also be a threaded as cheat:
* change weapon script (change weapon instead of reload)
* 180° turn script
* movement scripts
* waiting to throw grenade
* re-spawn time checker

Last months i see more and more players who:
* was unhitable
* drop grenades perfectly
* change weapons at perfect time

Today i followed ckey where i have to see how much trouble he had to run straight forward (everything has a drawback :P )

I have not very much problems with these scripts, i play vs bots too ;)

Discuss it, i think playing without scripts (et scripts and programmable keyboard scripts) will make more fun.

with best regards
MaD


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Re: Cheating

Postby ckEy » Tue Sep 09, 2014 18:39

CALLEJON wrote:thx for the laugh mate, appreciated

smth to reread ye :D
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Re: Cheating

Postby Bruce23 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:47

huhu,

* was unhitable <-------- looooooool :D

maybe also watch your fps. could help to cap at 125 fps. ---> com_maxfps 125
if your pc is not able to handle this rate changeless maybe use 76 fps. ---> com_maxfps 76
and if your pc is older than yourself use 43 fps. ----> com_maxfps 43
would also help to move faster!!!

At some maps and with many players on server your fps will drop down anyway :?
or maybe its just because of my hot laptop :roll: ....hotter than pompi allowed..uuuhhyeah :P

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Re: Cheating

Postby egglaf » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:26

Hey MaD,

Sorry for my late reply.

mad_tda wrote:Hallo,

your rulebook says:
Cheats, hacks and scripts such as; aimbots, wallhacks, multihacks, namehacks, guidspoofers, anti-recoil scripts, etc. are NOT allowed at our servers, using them will result in a permanent ban!

if i invert your enumeration, so script which automate common doings are allowed. Following script imho should also be a threaded as cheat:
* change weapon script (change weapon instead of reload)
* 180° turn script
* movement scripts
* waiting to throw grenade
* re-spawn time checker


The 180 degree turning script is not allowed at our server. For movement scripts it depends, I should look into it. The rest of your points are common tactics. Check smad's cfg topic for the spawntimer for example.

mad_tda wrote:Last months i see more and more players who:
* was unhitable
* drop grenades perfectly
* change weapons at perfect time


Nothing to do with cheating. Unhitability may be caused by bad settings from their or your side. Also the quality of internet connection plays a role here.

mad_tda wrote:Today i followed ckey where i have to see how much trouble he had to run straight forward (everything has a drawback :P )


cKey is mostly drunk when on the server.

In short: I hope this clarifies some things. I don't see many opportunities for discussion here, since all you said is either allowed or disallowed already.

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Re: Cheating

Postby Smadje » Wed Sep 10, 2014 20:40

For everyone interested:
Open an empty notepad file and save it as "smadjesmells"
Copy and paste the following text:

bind F3 "timerset 18; StartTimer" // PS1 spawntimer
seta cg_noAmmoAutoSwitch "1" // 1 = switches weapon when out of ammo

For the rest there are just general tricks for weapon switching. Don't use the scroll wheel, but buttons on your keyboard.

Also I updated my config, it's even more shitty than in the past.
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Re: Cheating

Postby ckEy » Wed Sep 10, 2014 20:54

egglaf wrote:cKey is mostly drunk when on the server.
In short: I hope this clarifies some things. I don't see many opportunities for discussion here, since all you said is either allowed or disallowed already

lol suure :D ... me being drunk on server (hardly ever) clarifies donkey's a.. :D ... I dont run in a straight line because it is just stupid ^^

EDIT: to be pro bind this to your cfg: bind MOUSE1 "kill; wait 30; forcetapout" and you will rock the world
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